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estate tax, that's a big sticking point. the senate republicans will insist it sticks at its current rate. >> thank you. we'll be back in a moment. this is "hard ball," the place for politics. [ buzzing ] for politics. bye dad. drive safe. k. love you. [ chirping, buzzing continues ] [ horn honks ] [ buzzing continues ] [ male announcer ] the sprint drive first app. blocks and replies to texts while you drive. we can live without the &. visit sprint.com/drive. starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. "are you a cool mom?" i'm gonna find out. [ female announcer ] swiffer wetjet's pads are better than ever. now they have the scrubbing power of mr. clean magic eraser so you don't have to get down on your hands and knees to scrub away tough, dried-on stains. hey, do you guys think i'm "momtacular" or "momtrocious"? ♪ [ female announcer ] swiffer. now with the scrubbing power of mr. cl
estate tax, that's a big sticking point. the senate republicans will insist it sticks at its current rate. >> thank you. we'll be back in a moment. this is "hard ball," the place for politics. [ buzzing ] for politics. bye dad. drive safe. k. love you. [ chirping, buzzing continues ] [ horn honks ] [ buzzing continues ] [ male announcer ] the sprint drive first app. blocks and replies to texts while you drive. we can live without the &. visit sprint.com/drive. starts with...
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. >> tax hikes remain at the center of the stand-off. what is the dividing line between those gets those tax breaks extended and those who do not. they're holding out hope for an 11-hour deal. hardly the first time that washington has pushed things to the edge. >> i actually think there's still a chance to get something done. so, you know, these deals usually come together at the last moment. >> why are you cautiously optimistic when it seems everyone else is saying we're going to go over the cliff? >> well, to paraphrase ronald reagan, there's so much manure around here there has to be a pony around here. no one wants tax hikes on 98% of the american people. >>> the president faces a potential default in the coming months unless the debt ceiling is raised again. a mo >> it's somewhat like taking your child hostage and saying to somebody else i'm going to shoot my child if you don't want done. there's no republican leader that wants to default on our debt that i talked to, that should be nonpartisan. >> congressman, not the best choice o
. >> tax hikes remain at the center of the stand-off. what is the dividing line between those gets those tax breaks extended and those who do not. they're holding out hope for an 11-hour deal. hardly the first time that washington has pushed things to the edge. >> i actually think there's still a chance to get something done. so, you know, these deals usually come together at the last moment. >> why are you cautiously optimistic when it seems everyone else is saying we're...
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, tax cuts for everyone making under 250, can republicans say no to a tax cut in 2015? >> it will be tough but not tougher than the pr battles he's fighting right now. i think he wants that scenario. i think obama thinks going off the click is a win for him. he can say i am bringing in revenue, i am lowering the deficit. and he can still blame the gop when their tacks go up. i don't think the grass pollen had the ball in this fight. i don't think they gave it up, i don't think they ever had it. it's tough for them to win against a white house like this and a white house press core that's not going to report anything negative against the president. >> there's a ball and the ball is the debt ceiling. all these things, i will get to craig, but have to go through the house. the money negotiations have to go through the house. if the house says no on raising the debt ceiling, they can create a lot of havoc. go ahead, greg. >> you know what? i don't care anymore. >> oh, okay. >> because as a human being in this discussion i've already lost, both options going over the fiscal
, tax cuts for everyone making under 250, can republicans say no to a tax cut in 2015? >> it will be tough but not tougher than the pr battles he's fighting right now. i think he wants that scenario. i think obama thinks going off the click is a win for him. he can say i am bringing in revenue, i am lowering the deficit. and he can still blame the gop when their tacks go up. i don't think the grass pollen had the ball in this fight. i don't think they gave it up, i don't think they ever...
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people are not propose iing mak the taxes like them. john boehner could not even pass the tax proposal he passed over there. he said no, can't do that. didn't he bring it up for a vote? >> tonight, speaker boehner's office put out this statement. >> joining me now are our guests. clearly the positioning game continues. harry reid saying we did our job months ago. do you think we til would be@posturing stage at the end of that white house meeting tomorrow? >> in your introduction you made the fundamental point here which is that this agreement before the end of the year, simply cannot go forward unless john by nor is willing to let it do so with majority democrats in the house. if we go over the curve as you put it, they can vote for a large tax decrease becaused off of the new rates that would be reset. they can say we votes to cut taxes for 98% of households. but it is the only scenario that i cap see out there in the near term. >> the building that read has passed. let's lis ep to what mitch mcconnell said about that? >> the senate bi
people are not propose iing mak the taxes like them. john boehner could not even pass the tax proposal he passed over there. he said no, can't do that. didn't he bring it up for a vote? >> tonight, speaker boehner's office put out this statement. >> joining me now are our guests. clearly the positioning game continues. harry reid saying we did our job months ago. do you think we til would be@posturing stage at the end of that white house meeting tomorrow? >> in your...
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because they know that we don't want to increase taxes. so i do think everyone coming toe, and it's going to take everyone, the president, the vice president, the house and sena senate. >>> are you saying there's several dozen that did not support plan b, they were not looking at this practically? >>> i agree with them. however, we're at a point where we will not get what we think is right for our economic and country, because we don't control government. so we've got to work within the system we have. i think 250,000 as a threshold is way too low. we can't do that to people who have a lot of expenses. we need to up that amount that president obama wants to raise taxes on. >> he was putting it at 400,000 senator, i want to move to the issue of guns. we heard what ray lapierre said earlier. he was singling out one of your colleagues. i want you to listen to part of his interview. >> you could ban all diane fine stein, done whatever you said to. she had insure bean and columbine occurred. >> is the revival of that ban, is that going to pass?
because they know that we don't want to increase taxes. so i do think everyone coming toe, and it's going to take everyone, the president, the vice president, the house and sena senate. >>> are you saying there's several dozen that did not support plan b, they were not looking at this practically? >>> i agree with them. however, we're at a point where we will not get what we think is right for our economic and country, because we don't control government. so we've got to work...
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the alternative minimum tax which all of us, again, agree should not apply to 26 million americans. we agree on that. let's vote on that. let's create that certainty and move forward. let's create a path to move forward to deal with comprehensive tax policy in a fair and responsible way and let's deal with the deficit and the balance in a fair away. john boehner basically said no to all of that. and that's really not acceptable leadership. >> is there any -- should harry reid amend the bill that the house sent over at all? the fact is, harry reid has -- needs to add republican cooperation. he wants to say, look, this isn't a game. this isn't show. you know, i can bring out a bill, pass a bill. if john boehner says i'm not going to look at that, what's the point? let's make something happen here. that is what the american people are looking for. we're concerned about the fiscal and economic policies. there's a recovery period that we're experiencing to put more challenges before the economy both consumers and investors. let's create certainty. let's make sure that we pass tax cuts fo
the alternative minimum tax which all of us, again, agree should not apply to 26 million americans. we agree on that. let's vote on that. let's create that certainty and move forward. let's create a path to move forward to deal with comprehensive tax policy in a fair and responsible way and let's deal with the deficit and the balance in a fair away. john boehner basically said no to all of that. and that's really not acceptable leadership. >> is there any -- should harry reid amend the...
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all the tax cuts including the tax cuts for the wealthy expire on january 1. so that is sort of a short term advantage. these programs, medicare, social security are incredibly popular. cutting them is unpopular. republicans' basic agenda is to cut them. some want to cut them or reform them for totally good reasons that costs are rising over time and as the population ages they take up more and more of the economy and more government spending. they are at a strategic disadvantage which is they want to cut programs that are incredib incredibly popular. anytime you are set against the consensus of public opinion it is a difficult course. you have to acknowledge that reality. as long as obama and democrats have that they will have the leverage as we repeat the negotiations in the decades to come. >> thank you for joining me. stick around we will be speaking with you two later this hour. >>> coming up the republican who is not afraid to stand up to his own party joins us live. what does he make of the sudden turn in the fiscal talks? is there still time to hammer
all the tax cuts including the tax cuts for the wealthy expire on january 1. so that is sort of a short term advantage. these programs, medicare, social security are incredibly popular. cutting them is unpopular. republicans' basic agenda is to cut them. some want to cut them or reform them for totally good reasons that costs are rising over time and as the population ages they take up more and more of the economy and more government spending. they are at a strategic disadvantage which is they...
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not through any tax breaks or anything like that. but through getting back to work and getting their paychecks back up. that's what they want to do. >> now, governor, you have had to deal with people of opposing parties. you've had to compromise. you've seen them compromise. that's what government does. but when you get inflexible people that seem to not understand the pain of the ordinary american, how do you break this gridlock? >> well, it's very hard. and the point you made, rev, is a very good one. the president did move with entitlements and it did anger a cig n significant portion of his base. but the president agrees that you can't set this nation's economy on a healthy path that cease going to take care of our deficit and make it a managinin bart of gdp. he knows we can't asked the republicans to raise it 1.2, 1.3 trillion in revenue. he's reached out and made cig nif kant concessions and the response to that was nothing. it is pathetic. >> jaret, let me ask you, if we go over the cliff, what ps? is there not an immediate im
not through any tax breaks or anything like that. but through getting back to work and getting their paychecks back up. that's what they want to do. >> now, governor, you have had to deal with people of opposing parties. you've had to compromise. you've seen them compromise. that's what government does. but when you get inflexible people that seem to not understand the pain of the ordinary american, how do you break this gridlock? >> well, it's very hard. and the point you made,...
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david: taxes on dividends could be rising. chairman of southern company who owns a bunch of utility companies, why that could spell trouble for more than just investors. >> liz joins us telling us which big companies will be first to take a costly fall if we, in fact, do go off that cliff. ♪ [ indiinct shouting ] ♪ [ indistinct shouting ] [ male announcer ] time and sales data. split-second stats. [ indiinct shouting ] ♪ it's so close to the options floor... [ indistinct shouting, bell dinging ] ...you'll bust your brain b b. ♪ all onhinkorswim from td ameritrade. ♪ hi hi ♪(whistling tune) ♪("don't worry be happy") shy david: it was wild in the pits at the cme was closing in chicago. sandy smith is there. what's going on, sandy? >> this is the stuff you don't see in a trade desk in the office or at home. the trade action picked up in the final minutes here. the s&p500 index of 500 stocks we watch every day closed at the top of the hour, at 14 # 0 # 2, hung on to the 1400 level. the futures, the pit i'm in, contin
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and the estate tax. and what's essentially happening here and a door open here, democrats leave the door open and expect mcconnell to make a counter offer, whatever the case may be, democrats run the place saying to mitch mcconnell, hey, if we jump off of this bridge, cliff, as it were, we're going to hold hands with you and not only bring along some republicans jumping off this cliff here but you have to make sure that john boehner comes along, too, and put something on the floor that's not going to get the majority of the majority republicans in the house of represent evs. that is the predicate, that is the condition in the senate. no one believes that john boehner will take that leap holding the hands of harry reid or mitch mcconnell, for that matter. the preponderance of opinion, the overwhelming belief and suspicion, however you want to phrase it, here in the capitol and downtown on k street is going over the cliff. only question now is how many days to extend past january 1st before they come back
and the estate tax. and what's essentially happening here and a door open here, democrats leave the door open and expect mcconnell to make a counter offer, whatever the case may be, democrats run the place saying to mitch mcconnell, hey, if we jump off of this bridge, cliff, as it were, we're going to hold hands with you and not only bring along some republicans jumping off this cliff here but you have to make sure that john boehner comes along, too, and put something on the floor that's not...
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they get $120 billion tax break. and people come forward and say we're very serious about deficit reduction. third area that we have to look at, the president wanted, as you recall a few weeks ago, $1.6 trillion in new revenue. we're now down to, as i understand it, about $600 billion. a significant reduction. if you don't have new revenue coming in from the wealthiest people, it will mean, as we go down the pike -- >> there are so many issues like, this that are -- have been originally talked about. but when push comes to shove, and it comes up to the absolute deadline and everybody is hopefully still talking tomorrow, how narrow could this deal be to get it done? >> how what? >> how narrow could this deal be? could it be just about whose taxes expire and whose don't? >> as i think some of your commentators made, people have to understand the world does not collapse in terms of the so-called deficit cliff, which many of us see as a slope. it doesn't collapse on january 1. not everybody's taxes are going up. you have
they get $120 billion tax break. and people come forward and say we're very serious about deficit reduction. third area that we have to look at, the president wanted, as you recall a few weeks ago, $1.6 trillion in new revenue. we're now down to, as i understand it, about $600 billion. a significant reduction. if you don't have new revenue coming in from the wealthiest people, it will mean, as we go down the pike -- >> there are so many issues like, this that are -- have been originally...
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people ma taxes will go up for everyone. you can see the numbers here, 40 to 65,000, it's $2,000 of a tax hike. so as constituents, if they were to call you and they say why is this happening, what are you going to say to them? >> well, first of all, that's not going to happen. we may go off the cliff on january 1st but we would correct that very quickly thereafter. what i'm telling them is the reason it's happening is we have idey ideologues in the house of representatives who don't believe there's a fiscal side of the budget. they're focused on cutting spending in unprecedented ways and they don't believe in taxes essentially. on the budget committee we've seen this day in and day out. these members of the house, and i don't know how many of them there are, but at least 50 or 60 basically have established a record in which ne hathey have firmly embraced the concept of not raising taxes and serious cuts that they put themselves in a box and they really can't get out and that's really tying up everything. because we can do a
people ma taxes will go up for everyone. you can see the numbers here, 40 to 65,000, it's $2,000 of a tax hike. so as constituents, if they were to call you and they say why is this happening, what are you going to say to them? >> well, first of all, that's not going to happen. we may go off the cliff on january 1st but we would correct that very quickly thereafter. what i'm telling them is the reason it's happening is we have idey ideologues in the house of representatives who don't...
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tax cuts for everyone making under 250. can republicans say no to tax cut in 2013? >> andrea: it will be tough. not tougher than the p.r. battle they are fighting now. i think he wants that scenario, eric. i think obama thinks going off the cliff is a win for him so he can pass the obama tax cut and say look, i'm bringing in revenue. i lowered the deficit. pass his tax cut. a win and he can blame the g.o.p. i would argue i don't think the g.o.p. had the ball on this fight. i don't think they gave it up. i don't think they had it. it's very tough for them to win against the white house like this. and a white house press corps that is not going to report anything negative against the president. >> eric: the ball is a debt ceiling. remember, all the negotiations, tell you, i'll get to greg, they have to go through the house. money negotiations go through the house. if the house says no on raising debt ceiling they can create havoc. go ahead. >> greg: i don't care anymore. >> kimberly: okay. you did last week? >> greg: as a human being in this discussion, i have already
tax cuts for everyone making under 250. can republicans say no to tax cut in 2013? >> andrea: it will be tough. not tougher than the p.r. battle they are fighting now. i think he wants that scenario, eric. i think obama thinks going off the cliff is a win for him so he can pass the obama tax cut and say look, i'm bringing in revenue. i lowered the deficit. pass his tax cut. a win and he can blame the g.o.p. i would argue i don't think the g.o.p. had the ball on this fight. i don't think...
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because you have to add both the obama care tax that's coming and the tax, the disappearing bush tax increase and this hits primarily as you know, small business owners and people who file subchapter s corporations. >> that's not who is primarily hits, it hits some of those people. >> over half of all the small business income that ends up paying this higher rate, if you do it. and the last time we did this, more than two-thirds of the people who got hit, were actually the subchapter s corporation. i think it would have a very significant effect. the other effect it has is that we're not cutting spending because we're spending too much money. and that sends a very bad signal. if we're not going to do entitlement reform, because every time we talk about it obama says let's raise taxes instead. we're dealing with tens of trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities, in four years obama has done nothing on entitlement reform. nothing for four years. what has he done? chirped about raising taxes on rich people. raising taxes on rich people is what obama talks about instead of doing his j
because you have to add both the obama care tax that's coming and the tax, the disappearing bush tax increase and this hits primarily as you know, small business owners and people who file subchapter s corporations. >> that's not who is primarily hits, it hits some of those people. >> over half of all the small business income that ends up paying this higher rate, if you do it. and the last time we did this, more than two-thirds of the people who got hit, were actually the...
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the fiscal cliff tax calculator. we've got it and will show you how to use it at 6:00. >> thank you. a work work -- new york woman accused of trying to scam donors by posing as a relative of one of the children killed in that elementary school. she's charged with lying to fbi agents this, is video of her leaving court. prosecutor says she used the facebook account, telephone calls to ask for donations for what she called a funeral fund. alba denied accusations when contacted by the fbi. 20 children and six adults were killed in december, on the 14th when a gunman opened fire in newtown. >>á[a6Ñ russian president vladir putin says he will sign a bill to ban americans from adopting russian children that. takes affect new year's day. that left pro suspective adoptivetçoÑñ parents in tushl . >> vladimir putin says he plans to sign a controversial new law banning u.s. adoptions. that dashes hopes and dreams of hundreds of american who's are trying to adopt russian orphans. many of them with special needs. officials h
the fiscal cliff tax calculator. we've got it and will show you how to use it at 6:00. >> thank you. a work work -- new york woman accused of trying to scam donors by posing as a relative of one of the children killed in that elementary school. she's charged with lying to fbi agents this, is video of her leaving court. prosecutor says she used the facebook account, telephone calls to ask for donations for what she called a funeral fund. alba denied accusations when contacted by the fbi....
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tax cuts for everyone making under 250. can republicans say no to tax cut in 2013? >> andrea: it will be tough. not tougher than the p.r. battle they are fighting now. i think he wants that scenario, eric. i think obama thinks going off the cliff is a win for him so he can pass the obama tax cut and say look, i'm bringing in revenue. i lowered the deficit. pass his tax cut. a win and he can blame the g.o.p. i would argue i don't think the g.o.p. had the ball on this fight. i don't think they gave it up. i don't think they had it. it's very tough for them to win against the white house like this. and a white house press corps that is not going to report anything negative against the president. >> eric: the ball is a debt ceiling. remember, all the negotiations, tell you, i'll get to greg, they have to go through the house. money negotiations go through the house. if the house says no on raising debt ceiling they can create havoc. go ahead. >> greg: i don't care anymore. >> kimberly: okay. you did last week? >> greg: as a human being in this discussion, i have already
tax cuts for everyone making under 250. can republicans say no to tax cut in 2013? >> andrea: it will be tough. not tougher than the p.r. battle they are fighting now. i think he wants that scenario, eric. i think obama thinks going off the cliff is a win for him so he can pass the obama tax cut and say look, i'm bringing in revenue. i lowered the deficit. pass his tax cut. a win and he can blame the g.o.p. i would argue i don't think the g.o.p. had the ball on this fight. i don't think...
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then however it becomes no longer extending the bush tax cuts, but the obama tax cuts. president obama is associated with cutting taxes. there is political liability for them as well. the reality is they have to get off of this no tax increase nonsense. i read in the "new york times" the other day, no republican member of congress voted for it since 1990. do you believe that? we had two or three wars since that time? a tragedy at 9/11 and we had hurricane sandy. we had hurricane katrina and despite all of these, they are unwilling to raise them to support and fund our government. what does it say about the dysfunctionality? >> we will have to leave it there. happy holidays to you. joining me now on the phone, congressman gregory meeks. congressman, i just saw you downstairs in the lobby about two or three hours ago and you were waiting on a phone call to determine when you might have to go back to d.c. to hammer out fiscal cliff matters. have you gotten the call yet? >> we are still waiting. >> no word as to when you guys are going back? no sense of urgency? >> i think
then however it becomes no longer extending the bush tax cuts, but the obama tax cuts. president obama is associated with cutting taxes. there is political liability for them as well. the reality is they have to get off of this no tax increase nonsense. i read in the "new york times" the other day, no republican member of congress voted for it since 1990. do you believe that? we had two or three wars since that time? a tragedy at 9/11 and we had hurricane sandy. we had hurricane...
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seems to be a vote on taxes. democrats will be able to pocket taxes, but it will be separate from spendsing cuts from the outset and then likely there will be another set of negotiations after the new year that will have spending cuts and taxes in it. that sounds like a recipe for democrats getting more in taxes than they would have with an up front deal. are your colleagues worried about that at all or are you? >> first of all, you are enlightening me so something that i was not aware of. that was not the conversation i had with my colleagues across the aisle or with the minority leader. so, you have information that i don't have. look, we cannot solve the problem with taxes you have to do both. this country is in trouble fiscally and financially as well as ratings. if we do not do something significant, we will have a rating problem. and there will come a time that we cannot afford the interest. what is the best thing that we can do now, given the political dynamics in washington that actually makes difference
seems to be a vote on taxes. democrats will be able to pocket taxes, but it will be separate from spendsing cuts from the outset and then likely there will be another set of negotiations after the new year that will have spending cuts and taxes in it. that sounds like a recipe for democrats getting more in taxes than they would have with an up front deal. are your colleagues worried about that at all or are you? >> first of all, you are enlightening me so something that i was not aware...
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. >> reporter: and hope is fading that congress can get a deal done before tax hikes and spending cuts kick in january 1st. >> i am not optimistic. >> reporter: even congressional leaders are cemental. >> the american people have a right to be very upset with this congress. >> reporter: president obama invited pelosi, john boehner and harry reid to the white house this afternoon for a fiscal cliff summit. >> here we are five days from the new year. and we might finally start talking. >> reporter: today's white house meeting might be the last chance to come to an agreement. that's because it takes time for a bill to work its way through both chambers of congress. >> i don't know time-wise how it can happen now. >> reporter: under senate rules the only way a bill could make its way through the procedural hurdles in time is if every senator agrees not to slow the progress. the senate will be
. >> reporter: and hope is fading that congress can get a deal done before tax hikes and spending cuts kick in january 1st. >> i am not optimistic. >> reporter: even congressional leaders are cemental. >> the american people have a right to be very upset with this congress. >> reporter: president obama invited pelosi, john boehner and harry reid to the white house this afternoon for a fiscal cliff summit. >> here we are five days from the new year. and we...
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68% and secondly the death tax. 55% rate -- how fair -- >> let's go to the death tax. 6,000 of the wealthiest wealthiest estates are the difference between what president obama wants and jon kyl wants, $119 billion over ten years. for those 600,000 estates to give $119 billion away and instead take it out on cuts on medicare and roads and education is unconscionable. >> if you look at the bigger picture for a second, we've known for two years that these tax cuts would be expiring the day after tomorrow or the end of the day tomorrow. we've known these automatic cuts, the so-called -- this was going to be happening for more than a year. aren't you a little embarrassed as leaders in the congress that it has gotten to this point that tomorrow is new year's eve, the day it all expires, and you still don't have an agreement? i mean, we've been having this argument for two years. >> it is embarrassing but almost every disagreement we've had is not because of a senate where we've had lots of -- we've come to agreement on many things. there are 50 hard right people in the house who don't want to comp
68% and secondly the death tax. 55% rate -- how fair -- >> let's go to the death tax. 6,000 of the wealthiest wealthiest estates are the difference between what president obama wants and jon kyl wants, $119 billion over ten years. for those 600,000 estates to give $119 billion away and instead take it out on cuts on medicare and roads and education is unconscionable. >> if you look at the bigger picture for a second, we've known for two years that these tax cuts would be expiring...
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an increase in the estate tax. in case those discussions break down, the president has asked democratic leader harry reid to prepare a separate bill to put on the floor of the senate that would raise taxes on households that earn $250,000 or more. that's really a democratic proposal, and you can expect republicans to block it. rather than thinking of that as a stop gap measure, you should probably think of it it as a political measure to shift the responsibility for failure onto republicans just before the nation hits the hour of reckoning. alison. >> thanks. with everyone from the president to republican leaders expressing hope for a deal by tomorrow night, at least one congressman says the chances look slim to none. listen to virginia democrat jim moran as he describes why he'll likely vote against a deal. >> my congressional district would be the hardest-hit if we go over the fiscal cliff. i have tens of thousands of federal employees and a great deal of defense spending would be at risk. so if we don't suspend
an increase in the estate tax. in case those discussions break down, the president has asked democratic leader harry reid to prepare a separate bill to put on the floor of the senate that would raise taxes on households that earn $250,000 or more. that's really a democratic proposal, and you can expect republicans to block it. rather than thinking of that as a stop gap measure, you should probably think of it it as a political measure to shift the responsibility for failure onto republicans...
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incomes under $20,000 will get hit with a $400 tax hike. between $20,000 and $40,000, more than 1,200 more. $40,000 of $65,000, $1,900 and between $65,000 and $108,000, expect to pay $3,500 more in taxes and anything above that, uncle sam's going to take more than $14,000. joining me to talk about this, congressman yarmuth of kentucky. you are due back in washington sunday we're told. what will you tell your constituents if they're subject to those tax hikes that i just showed? >> well, i'm going to tell them what i've been saying and that is that unfortunately we have a republican majority in the house that doesn't believe in raising taxes on anyone, no matter how well think they may be. and really, is not interested in a balanced approach to deficit reduction. it's been pretty clear that that's the story we have been telling and it happens to be the truth. >> i understand that two of colleagues proposed cuts to medicare for a hike in the debt ceiling. what do you make of that offer? >> i think one of the things that people don't realize i
incomes under $20,000 will get hit with a $400 tax hike. between $20,000 and $40,000, more than 1,200 more. $40,000 of $65,000, $1,900 and between $65,000 and $108,000, expect to pay $3,500 more in taxes and anything above that, uncle sam's going to take more than $14,000. joining me to talk about this, congressman yarmuth of kentucky. you are due back in washington sunday we're told. what will you tell your constituents if they're subject to those tax hikes that i just showed? >> well,...
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democrats will say they need that much in taxes, too. and because they've already raised rates, they got those middle class tax cuts extended, and the rich ones expired, they'll be open to do hitting through tax reform, which will be easier for republicans to swallow. let's say they do get the one to one match. that will be an $800 billion tax increase for a $1.4 trillion revenue increase in total. so democrats could easily end up when all of this is said and done with more revenue than president obama was asking for a week ago. and it will happen if it happens, because over and over and over and over again, john boehner and the house republicans could not take yes for an answer. they had to say no to this president. so they kept delaying until they were weaker. they pushed negotiations from 2011 where they were very strong, until 2012, right after the president had won re-election, and now they're pushing to 13, after the fiscal cliff hits and they get blamed. it is an odd way to negotiate. to get one republican view on what will come n
democrats will say they need that much in taxes, too. and because they've already raised rates, they got those middle class tax cuts extended, and the rich ones expired, they'll be open to do hitting through tax reform, which will be easier for republicans to swallow. let's say they do get the one to one match. that will be an $800 billion tax increase for a $1.4 trillion revenue increase in total. so democrats could easily end up when all of this is said and done with more revenue than...
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there's a whole host of other things, $2,200, income tax, estate tax, dividend tax, all of those set to go up on americans and what is expected to be a disaster for every household. if for some reason we go over the cliff and don't do something at the beginning of january and go back retroactively and adjust the rates, krystal. >> yeah. >> peter, you said something a minute ago and significant and if there's going to be a deal, that ends up leaving some taxpayers, wealthy taxpayers, paying higher than now, it's next year for republicans to sign off on it saying it's a tax cut in some form and gives democrats to wait until next week to strike a deal and wonder besides getting what they want or most of what they want on taxes if they wait until next week, is there anything else they can get in a deal in terms of we are talking about unemployment insurance, in terms of, you know, investment income and the tax rates and stimulus and looking for more stimulus and just be a tax cut deal next week or more components to it? >> reporter: it's a good question. they're having enough struggles w
there's a whole host of other things, $2,200, income tax, estate tax, dividend tax, all of those set to go up on americans and what is expected to be a disaster for every household. if for some reason we go over the cliff and don't do something at the beginning of january and go back retroactively and adjust the rates, krystal. >> yeah. >> peter, you said something a minute ago and significant and if there's going to be a deal, that ends up leaving some taxpayers, wealthy taxpayers,...
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estate tax goes to 50%. obamacare taxes for many individuals will be .9% on those earning over $200,000. that's another full percentage point. also we have a penalty tax will be imposed on the individuals. and also some employers. then on top of that we have, as kerry mention the, the alternative minimum tax patch. so we have five huge consequences right out of the box. you cover the economy every day. what does that mean to you and how does that affect the average person that will watch this go through? >> a lot of people entered the new year thinking i can't wait to file my taxes so i can get my tax return check. here is the irony and we will start from the bottom of the list. amt is my favorite thing to talk about because it's also known as the wealth tax. it was created 43 years ago because evil, greedy people were not paying their quote, unquote, fair share. this time it could affect $34 million people starting at $74,000. why? it was never indexed for inflation. it was one of these taxes put into plate
estate tax goes to 50%. obamacare taxes for many individuals will be .9% on those earning over $200,000. that's another full percentage point. also we have a penalty tax will be imposed on the individuals. and also some employers. then on top of that we have, as kerry mention the, the alternative minimum tax patch. so we have five huge consequences right out of the box. you cover the economy every day. what does that mean to you and how does that affect the average person that will watch this...
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that plan would block tax hikes for those earning $250,000. it would extend unemployment benefits to 2 million americans and put off spending cuts until the new year brings a new congress. our expert on all matters relating to the fiscal cliff is dana bash. she joins me now from washington. dana, great to see you again. tell me does even a band-aid approach work? >> it's going to be tough. this is all math. but it really has to do with the math with regard to votes. and democrats especially who i'm talking to in the senate which is probably where this will originate, the reality is that democrats don't hold a very big majority. her going to need to have a handful of republicans to cross party lines and vote with them on the whole concept of raising any taxes. especially what the president wants which is something that is raising taxes on all americans making more than $250,000. that's the senate. never mind the house, which of course, made clear to the house speaker that they won't even go for something that's a million dollars or more when it
that plan would block tax hikes for those earning $250,000. it would extend unemployment benefits to 2 million americans and put off spending cuts until the new year brings a new congress. our expert on all matters relating to the fiscal cliff is dana bash. she joins me now from washington. dana, great to see you again. tell me does even a band-aid approach work? >> it's going to be tough. this is all math. but it really has to do with the math with regard to votes. and democrats...
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. >> reporter: the fiscal cliff would bring massive tax increases and deep spending cuts. the treasury department would have trouble paying its bills. many economists worry the financial woes would plunge the u.s. back into a recession. just one possible effect of the fiscal cliff. milk prices could spike $2 or $3 a gallon, because farm programs will expire at the end of the year. some are calling that dairy cliff. live in new york, wendy gillette. >> wendy gillette in new york. thank you. >>> the country has lost one of its great warriors. tributes are pouring in this morning for retired general norman schwarzkopf. the general died yesterday in tampa after a battle with pneumonia. schwarzkopf commanded "operation desert storm" that drove iraqi forces from kuwait. in retirement, he championed causes. norman schwarzkopf was 78. >>> now, to former president george h.w. bush's condition. his chief of staff says he will be in the hospital for a while. the 41st president is recovering from a terrible case of bronchitis with a series of complications. she says that mr. bush is g
. >> reporter: the fiscal cliff would bring massive tax increases and deep spending cuts. the treasury department would have trouble paying its bills. many economists worry the financial woes would plunge the u.s. back into a recession. just one possible effect of the fiscal cliff. milk prices could spike $2 or $3 a gallon, because farm programs will expire at the end of the year. some are calling that dairy cliff. live in new york, wendy gillette. >> wendy gillette in new york....
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they didn't even want millionaires to have any increase in taxes. those fanatics, being as fa nat cal as they are, might not even do what most of us assume they would do if we went over the curb and eventually come around. in other words, even the republicans as a whole are taking a shellacing in the polls, individual republicans, when they go back to their districts, they're most worried about being attacked from the right, having a primary challenger in 2014 from the right. so it's not exactly clear right now that the democrat strategy which i have been touting and you have been touting and most of us assume will be the strategy if we go over the curb, that is, come up with a bill that provides a middle class tax relief retroactive to the first of january, it's not 100% sure that's going to work any longer now that we know now fanatical the fanatics are. >> john, tell me how the republicans who refuse to go on with the boehner plan b could somehow, between now and new year's eve, go along with something else that was possibly less attractive to th
they didn't even want millionaires to have any increase in taxes. those fanatics, being as fa nat cal as they are, might not even do what most of us assume they would do if we went over the curb and eventually come around. in other words, even the republicans as a whole are taking a shellacing in the polls, individual republicans, when they go back to their districts, they're most worried about being attacked from the right, having a primary challenger in 2014 from the right. so it's not...
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. >> if you're making $900,000 somehow he thinks you can't afford to pay a little more in taxes. >> here we are once again at the end of the year staring at a crisis we should have dealt with. >> the house of representatives is operating with dictatorship of the speaker. >> we can iron out our differences. >> republicans have bent over backwards. we stepped way, way out of our comfort zone. >> john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership. >> it is very hard for them to say yes to me. take me out of it. and think about their voters. >> he can be responsible for the largest tax increase in american history. ♪ we could have had it all ♪ rolling in the deep >> we start at the white house where at this very moment all four republican and democratic congressional leaders are meeting with the president, the vice president, and the treasury secretary trying to hammer out a fiscal cliff deal. the meeting began about an hour ago in what could be the final face-to-face meeting between the president and lawmakers of both parties before monday's midnight deadline. the house is sc
. >> if you're making $900,000 somehow he thinks you can't afford to pay a little more in taxes. >> here we are once again at the end of the year staring at a crisis we should have dealt with. >> the house of representatives is operating with dictatorship of the speaker. >> we can iron out our differences. >> republicans have bent over backwards. we stepped way, way out of our comfort zone. >> john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership....
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he said the 1 requirement i have for any deal is hiking tax rates. the reason that boehner was not able to do plan b was because it involved breaching the principle, which she did openly and said he was ready to do it. then conservatives said they would not do it. that is now a fracture in the party that will be extremely hard to reconcile. if you can not, how did yoget a deal done before january 1? i am not sure they can be do that is essentiay the proem the president faced with boehner twtwo years ago, last year. can he deliver? how can you n negotiate with someone who cannot deliver his side? >> you go to people for support at least three owhom have lost their committee assignments. how can you expect them to come into your way of thinking? >> and they wer growing when john boehnhner went down, taking some delight, but that was cleared, that was pre-cleared by the leadership. the leadership was with them. this is not a questio of -- quite bluntly, leaving and losing the virginity on the issue of tax cuts. is an important thingng for thes republica
he said the 1 requirement i have for any deal is hiking tax rates. the reason that boehner was not able to do plan b was because it involved breaching the principle, which she did openly and said he was ready to do it. then conservatives said they would not do it. that is now a fracture in the party that will be extremely hard to reconcile. if you can not, how did yoget a deal done before january 1? i am not sure they can be do that is essentiay the proem the president faced with boehner twtwo...
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republicans can vote for a tax cut. democrats are in a stronger position because they have more tax cuts that they want. i would get familiar with the phrase the last train leaving the station which is always the last bill coming off capitol hill before the session ends. this gets chalked up with a lot of stuff. it could even be monday. senate has a last train leaving the station. mcconnell decides not to block amendments, gets to the floor of the senate, gets to the floor, gets passed. i don't think it's unreasonable to think that can conceivably happen. >> mike, we don't have a lot of time, but do you see that as being reasonable that mcconnell would go down that route? >> mcconnell, i don't great with steve. i've had january 10th in the pool for quite some time as the day they come to an agreement. i think the question is will the republicans have any leverage at that point to get the spending cuts and entitlement reforms that were on the table before they're going to give up their leverage? and .i think they're goin
republicans can vote for a tax cut. democrats are in a stronger position because they have more tax cuts that they want. i would get familiar with the phrase the last train leaving the station which is always the last bill coming off capitol hill before the session ends. this gets chalked up with a lot of stuff. it could even be monday. senate has a last train leaving the station. mcconnell decides not to block amendments, gets to the floor of the senate, gets to the floor, gets passed. i don't...
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pledge not to increase taxes. lori: back off of politics. i'm curious about your take on the economy because the third quarter was revised upwards to over 3% growth. pretty good. you mentioned jobs, we're seeing some momentum, improvement in labor situation, housing is looking better, spending, questionable, almost like the economy, the domestic economy is like a powder keg ready to explode and to the good side meaning growth, not fall off a cliff, take a quick if you can out of the picture. how are the fundamentals of the economy? can you evaluate it without this other stuff going on in washington? >> the way to think about it is the economy in the fourth quarter is growing 1.5% to 2%. everyone's numbers around there. that is disappointing. the average in the postwar period was closer to 3 so we can do better. one of the reasons we are not doing better is there's so much uncertainty what government is going to do. i do believe we could have a great year next year provided that washington gets out of the way and i
pledge not to increase taxes. lori: back off of politics. i'm curious about your take on the economy because the third quarter was revised upwards to over 3% growth. pretty good. you mentioned jobs, we're seeing some momentum, improvement in labor situation, housing is looking better, spending, questionable, almost like the economy, the domestic economy is like a powder keg ready to explode and to the good side meaning growth, not fall off a cliff, take a quick if you can out of the picture....
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grover norquist dropped his tax opposition. boehner himself said many in his caucus were worried about primaries. >> grover norquist ds not have the power. essentially, he started to backpedadal on the meaning of the edge. it is absole nonsense. those conservaves do not owe their allegiance to grovover norquist. >> did he create something that he can no longer control? the power of the original tax plededge seems to ill resonate with many of these members. >> there are plenty of people who picked up that banner. i t think there is a commitnt to that pledge that goes fa beyond grover norquist. >> those conservative members of congress have a mandate just the way president obama does. so does speaker boehner. whenr. obabama comes down pennsylvania anue and does something he hasas never been inclined to do, put together aa coalition in the middle of whatever moderate democrats and republblicans he confined, get off his high horse about spending, and make those compromisises that he needs to make, he is not going to win. that in i
grover norquist dropped his tax opposition. boehner himself said many in his caucus were worried about primaries. >> grover norquist ds not have the power. essentially, he started to backpedadal on the meaning of the edge. it is absole nonsense. those conservaves do not owe their allegiance to grovover norquist. >> did he create something that he can no longer control? the power of the original tax plededge seems to ill resonate with many of these members. >> there are plenty...
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everybody's taxes would go up. you won't feel that immediately with most of these things, but with unemployment insurance and others, you will. there will be a grass roots feeling among americans. if you look at the polls, republicans will get blamed. they themselves are wary of this. that's why democrats would politically feel inclined to go over the cliff. there will be so much on republicans, this might be the only way they agree to raise taxes. >> not to mention in the next senate too. 55 democrats and four seats in the house. >> quickly for both of you, we covered this today. i'm surprised by the lack of urgency. does that surprise you as well? >> this is not the debt ceiling. say we are working through the weekends and training mcconnell and biden on the phone and the president involved. really to take christmas off facing the fiscal cliff in a week shows how little optimism there is. >> i completely agree. we spent many late nights in the capital and is it doesn't seem like that is going to happen. >> amazin
everybody's taxes would go up. you won't feel that immediately with most of these things, but with unemployment insurance and others, you will. there will be a grass roots feeling among americans. if you look at the polls, republicans will get blamed. they themselves are wary of this. that's why democrats would politically feel inclined to go over the cliff. there will be so much on republicans, this might be the only way they agree to raise taxes. >> not to mention in the next senate...
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and let's focus on spending not taxes. that is where the problem is. >> there's disagreement over what colin just said, the president seems to be dealing from a position of strength, is he likely to get concessions that he needs to get the plan through or is this simply about revenues? >> this is mostly about revenues at this point, i think any deal that you will see the next day will be very narrow in scope. we will mostly deal with the issue of revenues and it will show republicans really backing down for their no-tax position and allowing a rate increase of some kind, that said, i'm still very skeptical that they can get to a point that can get all sides agreeing to something and it's something that the republicans can agree to in the house. you know, there's a very, very -- a slim chance of that happening, but if anything happens, it's going to be a small scope deal and not the big about deal that they have been talking about for a long time. >> colin, are you at all surprised that john boehner has been sidelined at th
and let's focus on spending not taxes. that is where the problem is. >> there's disagreement over what colin just said, the president seems to be dealing from a position of strength, is he likely to get concessions that he needs to get the plan through or is this simply about revenues? >> this is mostly about revenues at this point, i think any deal that you will see the next day will be very narrow in scope. we will mostly deal with the issue of revenues and it will show...
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they will be cutting taxes instead of voting to raise taxes. it is a small distinction, but an important one for some republicans. >> president obama spoke to congressional leaders before he left hawaii by phone yesterday. senator mcconnell says he would be happy to look for to any proposal from the president. >> economists have warned that failure to address the fiscal cliff could send our country back into recession. maryland live! casino now open 24-7. before they closed at 2:00 a.m. and 4:00 a.m. on friday and saturday. but this morning the anne arundel location , that stores for the very last time. >> they unlocked at 8:00 and there was a waiting line to get in. this is all early buzz for the 24-hour operation. before now, the casino had to close its doors, but not any more. and adult beverages here are now sold around-the-clock. >> 24 hours a day -- all day long, all night long, all year long. we are pretty excited about that. >> i think it is great. it will bring more revenue into the stage. i think it is win-win. >> i think it is great.
they will be cutting taxes instead of voting to raise taxes. it is a small distinction, but an important one for some republicans. >> president obama spoke to congressional leaders before he left hawaii by phone yesterday. senator mcconnell says he would be happy to look for to any proposal from the president. >> economists have warned that failure to address the fiscal cliff could send our country back into recession. maryland live! casino now open 24-7. before they closed at 2:00...
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do a tax cut before it expires. we have said for weeks it would be a lot easier for republicans after the tax cuts to come and vote for the 98% below and say, hey, we took the best tax cut deal we can. >> jared, i think that many in the country, and i speak to folks every day for three hours a day. i think that many were hoping for so much more. republicans and democrats, who took a look at that year-long effort, simpson-bowles, and thought it had some attractive qualities because there was equal pay. you know, the military was getting cut, entitlements were being reformed, taxes were being altered. we're nowhere near any of that now. >> put me on that list. i maybe a hard core policy wonk but we're exactly where they are. i think compromise is the only way we get from where we are to where we need go, and what i've tried to stress and the president has been good on this lately as well. we actually have an economic recovery. it's not strong yet, but it's starting to gain some traction. and the idea that you would ga
do a tax cut before it expires. we have said for weeks it would be a lot easier for republicans after the tax cuts to come and vote for the 98% below and say, hey, we took the best tax cut deal we can. >> jared, i think that many in the country, and i speak to folks every day for three hours a day. i think that many were hoping for so much more. republicans and democrats, who took a look at that year-long effort, simpson-bowles, and thought it had some attractive qualities because there...
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trying to address the tax issue, i thought, was important to do it now, so that we do not have taxes go up on every american and hurt our economy. >> [inaudible] >> listen, there was a perception created that that vote last night was going to increase taxes. i disagree with that characterization of the bill, but that impression was out there. we had a number of our members who just really did not want to be perceived as having raised taxes. that was the real issue. one of my colleagues the other night had an analogy of 100 people drowning in a pool, and that he was a lifeguard. because he could not save any of them, does that mean that he should not have done anything? his point was, if i can go in there and save 99 people that are drowning, that is what i should do as a lifeguard. but the perception was out there and a lot of our members did not want to deal with it. >> [inaudible] are you willing to pass a bill [inaudible] >> we have passed a bill and is sitting in the senate. we passed a bill to deal with the sequester. what we were trying to do this week was to basically jumpstar
trying to address the tax issue, i thought, was important to do it now, so that we do not have taxes go up on every american and hurt our economy. >> [inaudible] >> listen, there was a perception created that that vote last night was going to increase taxes. i disagree with that characterization of the bill, but that impression was out there. we had a number of our members who just really did not want to be perceived as having raised taxes. that was the real issue. one of my...
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i tax, high benefits or a low tax, low benefits. host: the president is on his way to high this weekend. i am assuming speaker boehner is going to high and majority leader reid is going to nevada. will there be any discussions between anybody over the next week or so? when do we expect these five banks -- these guys will come back to wrap this up? guest: they will come back and wrap up the supplemental bill hand and a couple of pieces of legislation they have to do -- supplemental bill has and a couple of pieces of legislation they have to do anyway. u.s. something all of us on capitol hill are dying to find out. when -- you ask something of a who worked on capitol hill are dying to find out. at the present's post office -- press conference, someone yelled, when are you coming back? we want to have the longest section possible. host: thanks for being on the program. we will continue talking about >> we are joined by the authors of the nearly released the book, "the end of the line." glenn thrush and jonathan martin. live it 7:00 eas
i tax, high benefits or a low tax, low benefits. host: the president is on his way to high this weekend. i am assuming speaker boehner is going to high and majority leader reid is going to nevada. will there be any discussions between anybody over the next week or so? when do we expect these five banks -- these guys will come back to wrap this up? guest: they will come back and wrap up the supplemental bill hand and a couple of pieces of legislation they have to do -- supplemental bill has and...
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income taxes are not the only major issues here. we go over the cliff, the tax rate on most capital gains would go from 15 to 20%. dividends would now be taxed like regular income instead of capital ganls. the inheritance tax, that would go from 35% on estates over $5 million to 55% on estates over a million bucks. so a lot of implications here not just on regular income taxes. michelle. >> got it, jackie. good way to lay out the situation. investors acting on their fiscal cliff nerves. this is the first time since the dow has dipped. a deal has been priced in. a lot of people thought something was going to happen. harry reid said we're probably going over the cliff. check out the wall street fear index. they have spiked above 20 for the first time since july. if this is what we're facing, how much worse can the fall get? jackie laid it all out, right? the average individual will have a lot less money to spend and we are a consumer-driven economy. a lot of action down there on the floor. >> people excited. >> is the market acting in
income taxes are not the only major issues here. we go over the cliff, the tax rate on most capital gains would go from 15 to 20%. dividends would now be taxed like regular income instead of capital ganls. the inheritance tax, that would go from 35% on estates over $5 million to 55% on estates over a million bucks. so a lot of implications here not just on regular income taxes. michelle. >> got it, jackie. good way to lay out the situation. investors acting on their fiscal cliff nerves....
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go. >> well, we can't see taxes go up on anybody across the board and we have to see the tax rates extended for everyone and-- >> that's not going to happen. >> that's not going to happen so who is going to pay more in taxes? you say we're going to have a deal and so who pays more in taxes? >> well, you know, with the senate back today and the president back today, hopefully we'll see outlines and-- >> come on. >> i'm not sure what's going on. stuart: you think they're going to get a deal. i want you to tell me the outlines of that deal. not what you hope for, what do you think is it going to happen. >> i'm not sure where the president and senator ree reid e going to draw the line. where the president before was 400,000 with speaker boehner at a million last week. >> let's suppose it's 250. do you think the republicans will accept that, the say go ahead and do it, do you think so? >> i think we have to look at what the whole package is going to be. taxes are part of it and then the spending side. while we we were in a spending crisis and that's driven by-- and sequestered and-- stuart: will
go. >> well, we can't see taxes go up on anybody across the board and we have to see the tax rates extended for everyone and-- >> that's not going to happen. >> that's not going to happen so who is going to pay more in taxes? you say we're going to have a deal and so who pays more in taxes? >> well, you know, with the senate back today and the president back today, hopefully we'll see outlines and-- >> come on. >> i'm not sure what's going on. stuart: you...
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cliff negotiations go now especially after the after the nation learned last week that any sort of tax increase at all even on millionaires can't get enough republican support in the house of representatives to pass. the tea party might have helped progressives dodge a bullet when it comes to president obama's social security cuts but it's getting clearer and clearer that they are not interested in governing and could care less about what sort of economic damage the nation may suffer from if we do go over the fiscal cliff or if a few weeks from now they hold the debt limit hostage again given that we've seen president obama and congressional democrats sacrifice their most cherished principles in these fiscal cliff talks is there anything that republicans in the house would be willing to sign off on that doesn't screw the middle class over well let's ask neil mckay he's the senior reporter at human events online in the editor of the guns and patriots column neil welcome back to the show first of all i am not for screwing the middle class and both that wonderful intro well said we'll see
cliff negotiations go now especially after the after the nation learned last week that any sort of tax increase at all even on millionaires can't get enough republican support in the house of representatives to pass. the tea party might have helped progressives dodge a bullet when it comes to president obama's social security cuts but it's getting clearer and clearer that they are not interested in governing and could care less about what sort of economic damage the nation may suffer from if we...
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taxpayers whose taxes would go up on average $3,500 a year. many americans are frustrated the showdown has gone down to the last-minute. >> they're playing games with people's lives. and i don't mean that's correct. >> it's just unfortunate that at this point, the two sides can't come together because it's been like that for the last four or five years. >> reporter: two million americans will also lose jobless benefits on saturday if a deal isn't reached. and the nation's borrowing limits to finance our $16 trillion debt will also be reached on monday. danielle nottingham, cbs news, washington. >>> three new jersey police officers were shot and their police station this morning. the shooter domestic assault suspect got a gun and started firing. it happened in the township in camden county east of philadelphia. the gunman was shot and killed. the wounded officers are expected to recover. >>> also the second time this month, someone has been pushed to their death on new york's subway tracks. the nypd says that it was a woman who pushed the male
taxpayers whose taxes would go up on average $3,500 a year. many americans are frustrated the showdown has gone down to the last-minute. >> they're playing games with people's lives. and i don't mean that's correct. >> it's just unfortunate that at this point, the two sides can't come together because it's been like that for the last four or five years. >> reporter: two million americans will also lose jobless benefits on saturday if a deal isn't reached. and the nation's...
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>> i think raising the capital gains tax, raising the dividend tax, raising the estate tax, raising taxes on small businesses, is a disaster for the economy, it's too fragile. >> that's not true at all. all the research shows that actually the economic activity is not that sensitive to tax rates at the top of the income distribution -- >> that's not true, it's the opposite. >> i'm sorry -- >>> the economy's highly sensitive, that's why countries have been cutting tax rateth. >> we grew faster when we had higher tax rates. >> let's just do it another reality check on this. which is that, whether we go over the cliff or have a scaled-down deal, we've got two things looming, a debt ceiling in probably two months which republicans will no doubt use as leverage. we still don't have a grand bargain that deals with deficit and debt by taking on tax reform and entitlement reform. what rational reason, stephen, first you, should we have that that other kick the can to another situation we're about to go off a cliff would produce any different result from a new congress? >> i'm not sure it will. jo
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and the estate tax. it goes on. it goes on. it goes on. why, david jackson, haven't people started screaming from the streets and screaming from the rooftops about what this mean, this is a manufactured crisis. >> well, they haven't felt it in their paycheck and they will after january 1. the government will be taking more out of their paychecks and when the tax time will roll by in april, they'll feel it and businesses will feel it. once people will see they're losing money on this deal you'll see more public outrage about it. >> david naka, mura, calling for an up or down vote if the senate can't come up with it. he's talking about 250,000, at one point 400,000. is it realistic to think that the president can win this thing on an up or down vote? >> if they actually go to an up and down vote there will be a lot of pressure on those who were against a temporary fix with this to make their case known and actually go on the record. that's why the question is would the republican senators who would oppose
and the estate tax. it goes on. it goes on. it goes on. why, david jackson, haven't people started screaming from the streets and screaming from the rooftops about what this mean, this is a manufactured crisis. >> well, they haven't felt it in their paycheck and they will after january 1. the government will be taking more out of their paychecks and when the tax time will roll by in april, they'll feel it and businesses will feel it. once people will see they're losing money on this deal...
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you have to do something on taxes. really, plan b was about tax cuts, not spending. it seems to me the only with the republican party will get major spending cuts passed is it they also agreed to new revenue. otherwise, the president cannot be out there continually only cutting spending while leaving all of the bush-ever tax cuts in place. host: let me share with you what emily etherege writes. she says it is almost certain that social security will be part of the deal. continued murkiness has groups concerned. democrats are critical of the president putting this issue on the table. republicans say it has to be. guest: despite the conversations about the grand bargain, it was never going to happen, there had not been enough preparation. one of my predictions from my column in 2012 was predictions for next year. what i am telling everybody is we are not going to get a big tax reform package next year because it takes two years to enact. without that, we will not get mandatory spending changes. that means the grand bargain is two years off. it cannot be part of the fis
you have to do something on taxes. really, plan b was about tax cuts, not spending. it seems to me the only with the republican party will get major spending cuts passed is it they also agreed to new revenue. otherwise, the president cannot be out there continually only cutting spending while leaving all of the bush-ever tax cuts in place. host: let me share with you what emily etherege writes. she says it is almost certain that social security will be part of the deal. continued murkiness has...